First off, there is a group called Christians Against Dinosaurs. Recently, one of its members posted to Mumsnet, a parenting board, with some pretty hard evidence against the existence of dinosaurs and very rational reactions to dinosaur-related toys and play. Let’s enjoy, shall we?
I’m really concerned about dinosaurs, and I think something needs to be done. The science behind them is pretty flimsy, and I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?
Charles Darwin’s later theory of evolution entirely disproved dinosaurs, yet the dinosaur lie was twisted and adapted to try to make it fit. Any proper look at the facts will reveal that dinosaurs simply never existed.
Aside from the educational aspect, dinosaurs are a very bad example for children. At my children’s school, several children were left in tears after one of their classmates (who had evidently been exposed to dinosaurs), became bestially-minded and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. Then he bit three children on the face. One poor girl has been left with a severely dented nose and the whole class was left traumatised by this horrible display.
Nothing about dinosaurs is suitable for children, from their total lack of family values through to their non-existence from any serious scientific point of view.
Recently my sister foolishly gave my two youngest some dinosaurs toys for Christmas. After telling her to get out of my house I burnt the dinosaurs. My children were delighted because they know that dinosaurs are evil. I am fortunate that my family has been very supportive, and has disowned my children’s former aunt.
Please, do what you can to get dinosaurs taken off the curriculum. Our school has been recently presented with a 214-signature petition, and following that and our recent protest the headmaster has said that he will take it the governors. We are lucky that he is so sympathetic to our cause, but I fear that others may not be.
This user was ultimately banned for this anti-dino agenda, but if you’re interested, the movement has a Facebook page and Twitter account, and some highly entertaining and educational videos on YouTube.
A user on the parenting forum Mumsnet has been banned for hijacking conversations with complaints about “the dinosaur hoax” and its effects on children, KTRK reports.
Writing under the name “CADministry” — “CAD” being a reference to a Facebook advocacy group to which the writer belongs called “Christians Against Dinosaurs” — the mother began by complaining that “I am getting sick and tired of dinosaurs being forced on our children.”
“Something needs to be done,” she continued. “The science behind them is pretty flimsy, and I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?”
The complaint is so outlandish at times that many believe it to be a hoax. CADministry wrote, for example, that dinosaurs “lack family values,” and by way of demonstration, recounted an instance at her “children’s school, [in which] several children were left in tears after one of their classmates (who had evidently been exposed to dinosaurs) became bestially-minded and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. Then he bit three children on the face.”
She also claimed to have disowned her sister, who “foolishly gave my two youngest some dinosaur toys for Christmas. After telling her to get out of my house, I burnt the dinosaurs. My children were delighted because they know that dinosaurs are evil. I am fortunate that my family has been very supportive, and has disowned my children’s former aunt.”
If the group is a hoax, however, it is a convincing one. CADministry has been spreading her gospel in other online forums, and “Christians Against Dinosaurs” has a YouTube channel featuring videos dating back months in which a woman explains how “the dinosaur hoax” has been perpetrated.
“A fossil is not actually a piece of bone,” she says. “It’s actually a bone that was once in the ground that has been filled with limestone, calcium, and other stone-like deposits, so at the end of the day, it’s a rock made out of rocks.”
“So,” she continues, “you have a rock that’s [six-inches long], and you hand it to a paleontologist, who chips away at it until you have something looking like a bone — and that is a fossil.”
She then dumps a cup full of broken shards on the table in front of her, and asks viewers to pretend that they are paleontologist and put those shards back together into whatever they originally were. “If you’re a paleontologist and you want to keep your job,” she says, “you turn that into a brachiosaurus skull.”
“I’m getting sick and tired of dinosaurs being forced on our children,” is the first of many incredible lines of a post from “CADministry” – CAD referencing a group to which the user belongs, Christians Against Dinosaurs.
She goes on to doubt the “flimsy” science behind the existence of dinosaurs, saying that they never existed and Charles Darwin’s writings on evolution proved as much. MEMATIC In this still from a film produced by Christians Against Dinosaurs, 65 millions years of history is ignored.
The fictional creatures were invented, the woman asserts, by “curio-hungry Victorians” in the 1800s. Before that, no one had ever even heard of dinosaurs.
In addition to the flawed science, dinosaurs are a very bad example for children, the author offered.
One of her children’s classmates had his mind poisoned when he was exposed to dinosaurs. The boy became “bestially-minded” and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. He even bit three children, the user wrote, during a traumatizing ordeal that brought several children to tears.
Some of the author’s most outlandish claims, like the one about dinosaurs’ “total lack of family values,” had the Internet wondering if the post was written in jest.
But dinosaurs are no joke, because according to CADministry, the fictional creatures drive apart families, as she discovered when her two youngest sons received dinosaurs as Christmas gifts from their aunt.
“After telling her to get out of my house I burnt the dinosaurs,” the author wrote, bringing to mind visions of a prehistoric Salem. “My children were delighted because they know that dinosaurs are evil. I am fortunate that my family has been very supportive, and has disowned my children’s former aunt.”
She’s protested the teaching about dinosaurs in her children’s school, and submitted a 214-signature petition demanding the removal of dinosaurs from the curriculum. It’s unclear if any other empirically proven subject matter is in danger of being removed from the curriculum.
But if Christians Against Dinosaurs turns out to be a hoax, it’s a comprehensive one. In addition to 6,700 members on Facebook, the group has Twitter and YouTube accounts that date back weeks and months, respectively.
In one YouTube video, a woman says that the world is only 6,000 years old – “that’s pretty indisputable,” she asserts.
CADminsitry also has brought her message to other forums. In one post, she took aim at fans of heavy-metal music, calling them “long-haired deviants” who are “unGodly, smelly and seem to revel in insulting Jesus Christ.”
But in an effort to find some common ground, Christians Against Dinosaurs “commissioned a special report” to find out where metalheads stand on the subject of dinosaurs.
“After all,” she wrote, “we are all God’s children, except maybe those funny Norwegian ones in their clown makeup”
There are few things more amusing than prehistoric views about prehistory.
I have been woken several times over the last couple of days with rumblings and tremblings about a group that has publicly questioned the very existence of dinosaurs and railed against the bestialization of our children by teaching them dinosaur lore in schools.
The group in question is called Christians Against Dinosaurs. Those of a coarsely waggish nature might suggest that Christians ought not be against dinosaurs, given some of the archaic beings that run certain of the Christian branches.
I cannot begin to debate that, as I’m too busy giggling at some of this group’s postings on the popular parenting site Mumsnet.
A classic was headlined: “I’m getting sick and tired of dinosaurs being forced on our children.” Its author, claiming to represent the Christians Against Dinosaurs Ministry, exclaimed: “I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?”
The poster goes on to explain that Darwin’s Theory of Evolution “entirely disproved dinosaurs.” Worse that that, though: “Dinosaurs are a very bad example for children. At my children’s school, several children were left in tears after one of their classmates (who had evidently been exposed to dinosaurs), became bestially-minded and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. Then he bit three children on the face.”
Being of sanguine mind and chilly heart, I tried to investigate this group further. It has a Facebook page, where more than 8,000 claim to be members. It has a Twitter feed, with a mere 194 followers.
And then there are the YouTube videos. The most pulsating is one in which a presenter attempts to convince the world that the first fossil ever found was much later than when the first “idea” of a dinosaur was conceived. She insisted that paleontologists were just tools of a system.
To many ears, this may seem like bilge, but bilge designed to entertain. To my eyes, the woman presenting her argument could barely keep a straight face.
So I contacted the Christians Against Dinosaurs Twitter feed and asked who was its leader and was this all a joke. I received this reply: “We do not have a leader, we are a collective.” I was told this is most definitely not a joke.
Unlike many Christian groups, this one doesn’t seem to talk about God very much. At least not in its video.
I was informed by the group, however, that its aim to “respect Jesus and see through the various dinosaur deceptions.” The woman presenting the video is Kristen Auclair, whose Facebook page claims that she lived in Southbridge, Mass.
A LinkedIn profile for the same name, city and similar profile picture says she’s a commercial insurance account executive. It makes no mention of her antipathy toward dinosaurs. So she’ll insure any old CEO, then.
I was encouraged to join the group to see what it was all about. I made a request, which was approved by someone called Kate (she asked me to withhold her last name.) She told me she is an actor in the UK.
Having joined the group (please, I did it for you), what was revealed was this message: “We all know God never created dinosaurs, and its great to have a place we can all celebrate this.”
We all know this? How do we all know this? I wasn’t aware that all of us knew anything at all. That’s just one of the amusements of life.
Still, the group’s welcome message concludes that it’s “a nice group to celebrate Gods wisdom in denying the existing of dinosaurs!”
This nice group says it plans a protest at Ken Ham’s Creation Museum in Kentucky. The date is as yet undetermined. The announcement of the protest was made by Amy Pavlovich, whose Facebook page claims that “hearts are for sissies.” And Happy Valentine’s Day to you, madam.
I contacted both Kate and Auclair to ask for further details of their involvement in what to some might seem a joke (of one kind) and to others a joke (of another kind).
“I assure you we are serious about our beliefs,” Kate explained. “The core members all follow Jesus’ teachings but, as I’m sure you’ve seen, since the recent publicity we have been swamped by a larger than usual number of ‘trolling, and people who seem to have joined just to mock.”
How, though, did she get involved in all this? She told me: “I got involved through a family member who worked in the palaeontological field and, as they rose up the ranks and more and more dodgy goings on were revealed their suspicions were aroused and further research ensued.”
She claimed she is still learning. However, one thing she has learned is that “the Museum Industry Complex are ruthless.” But can she change minds? “We already have,” she said.
Auclair confirmed that she had a child and was in insurance sales. She told me that not too many people in Massachusetts share her beliefs.
About the group, she said: “I only hope that it serves as an outlet for others too afraid to speak out about their doubts in the field of paleontology. It is healthy to question the world around us and not just take the word of science as gospel.”
She added: “I personally think that the reaction thus far has been a little crazy. Lol. An influx of Reddit people has made the group a little tougher to handle. I know I’m just trying to get my bearings together to handle the onslaught of berating messages and absolute vitriol flying from these people.”
Welcome to the Web, Kristen.
So remember, kids, fossils are just fossils. They’re not bits of old dinosaurs. Unless, oh, they are. Either way children, please don’t be beastly.